22753: Simon: Haitian-American Professional Network- Manhattan July Event (fwd)

[Bob Corbett <corbetre@webster.edu>]

From: Dan Simon <dsimon@penncolor.com>



The Haitian-American Professionals Network cordially invites you to join us
on Friday, July 23, 2004 @ the Time Hotel- La Gazelle located at 224w.49th
Street(Btw 8th and Broadway). Event commences at 6:00 PM.
Please bring plenty of business cards.
We encourage you to promote your businesses, events, organizations and Idea
while making new friends and new business Partners.
The event is free, business attire required for admission. For information
please email Daniel Simon at trihatprof@yahoo.com or Cathleen Laporte at
thehaitiangroup@aol.com

On site will be Haitian-American Authors, Fania  Simon, Ella Turenne, Carol
Victorand more.

Thank you

Daniel Simon
Environmental Health & Safety Coordinator
Custom Chemical Corporation
30 Paul Kohner Place,
Elmwood Park, NJ 07407
201-791-8412 Ext 242
dsimon@penncolor.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Corbett [mailto:corbetre@webster.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:59 AM
To: Dan Simon
Subject: Re: Haitian-American Professional Network -- NOTE FOR YOU


I can't post it in current form.  See below:

>From corbetre@webster.edu Tue Nov 25 17:48:23 2003
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:48:03 -0600 (CST)
From: Bob Corbett <corbetre@webster.edu>
To: Bob Corbett <corbetre@webster.edu>
Subject: The post you sent has an attachment



The post you sent in comes with at least one attachment.  I don't post
any items to the list which has any attachment.  It is too easy to
pass on viruses which the sender (you) has no idea is even there.

It you post from an aol or yahoo address it is very likely that YOU didn't
put the attachment there at all, but that your browser did witout you even
knowing and it will continue to do.  Nearly every member of the list who
uses aol has had to telephone aol and have their technicians walk the
customer through changes that will remove the feature from aol's browser
which automatically attaches your e-mail address to the note by means of
an attachment.

At the end of this note is a note from a list member who was using
Yahoo.com and talked with them about it.  See her note.

See below for other:

The attachment may NOT be in the message.  Some browsers have an
automatic feature which uses attachments to attach your e-mail
address, or other such things.  This feature may be disabled
and many list members have done this.  I have no idea in the
world how one does this.  You'd need a computer savvy person to
help.

However, more often than not it is not the browser, but the fact that
the message has been copied rather than typed.

In order for me to post the note to the list I will need it in
a form that doesn't come with attachments.

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Guy Antoine adds:

Bob, I think that the situation depends on the mail client
one uses. For my part, I use Outlook Express which comes
bundled with MS Internet Explorer and the several latest
versions of Windows.I suspect that many others use it too,
since it is free and an integral part of the most used internet
browser in the world.

When composing a letter in Outllok Express, one has the
option of changing the "default format" between two options:
one is "Rich text (HTML)", the other is "Plain text".  Right
out of the box, so to speak, the default for all new mail is
"Rich text". This is so, this allows the sender to include
much enriched visual information, particularly varied fonts
and backgrounds.  The receiver of such an e-mail falls
into two types:

1) If the receiver uses an e-mail client such as Outlook,
Outlook Express, or similar programs that are Rich Text
oriented, then the reader sees the e-mail just as intended
in his mail space, without any attachment whatsoever.
In fact, you should remember that the sender is not aware
of sending any attachment (though he could specifically
include some attachments if he wanted to) since Rich Text
is the program default.

2) If the receiver uses an e-mail client (like yours!) which
is not Rich Text or HTML friendly, then the message
received becomes an attachment though it was not sent
nor ever inteded to be sent as an attachement.

The solution: the sender has to make sure, when he sends
any mail to the Corbett list, to check the FORMAT option
on his e-mail client and change it from Rich Text to Plain
Text.  Sometimes, as you noticed, I do forget.

[ A more drastic option is to change the default format to
Plain Text for all outgoing mail, but that requires sacrificing
a feature that provides fun and utility to a lot of people.
Finally, it's possible to instruct Outlook Express to send
e-mail to specific receivers like Bob Corbett using Plain
Text settings only.  But this requires some fiddling that
many of your list users may not be accustomed to do]

Guy

>From a yahoo - user:

Ordinary Yahoo! messages come with a promotional tagline or footer at the
end.  This shows up as a web-link (blue, underlined) at the bottom of the
e-mail message.  This is apparently seen as an "attachment" by Bob and the
Corbett list's server.

Here's what Yahoo Mail Help says about this:

"Why is there a footer on all my messages?

The footer, which is appended to all messages sent with Yahoo! Mail, is a
way for us to spread the news about available Yahoo! services. The footer
cannot be removed or modified. We have tried to make the footer as
unobtrusive as possible. Most mailing lists handle this footer well.
However, if you are sending to a list that is unable to process the
footer, you may want to contact the mail list administrator directly for
assistance processing your request. If you send email through the web
interface, the footer will still be attached to your outbound mail."

But Yahoo! now offers what it calls Mail Plus, for a price that starts at
US$30 a year.  It has a number of good features (like more storage and the
ability to put Yahoo onto Outlook Express) and it takes the "footer" off.

>From UK Yahoo Mail Plus Help

"No promotional taglines in messages
Whether you choose to send your email through the web interface or through
a POP3 client, with Mail Plus all of your sent messages are free from ad
taglines."

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I hope you can resubmit the post without attachments.

Thanks,  Bob Corbett