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23007: Saint-Vil RE: 22972: Dorce: Re: Cruising Into History (fwd)



From: Jean Saint-Vil <jafrikayiti@hotmail.com>


Kathy,

Somehow, your posts always manage to encourage me to write, even after having
reached a conclusion similar to yours "so disgusted that I can barely stand to
respond to the posts on this list".

The poor in Haiti today certainly do not need vinegar to be poured over their
wounds by the very folks who brought Jean Pierre Baptiste (Tatoune), Jodel
Chamblain, Guy Philippe, their M16s and other death machines to dance on the
graves of their sons and daughters. These declarations of "love and care for
the people" remind me of the great declarations of one Luigi Einaudi in January
2003, praising the great gesture of the State of Vatican contributing a
whooping 5000 Euros (Yes thousands !) to the "international community"'s
funding drive for Democracy in Haiti. Yep, these loved to death "people" seem
condemned to pick up crumbs that fall from the dirty deals   happening among
her self-claimed benefactors.

Who shall no thanks on behlaf of "the people". Do the people have mouths to
speak for themselves? Why do they still defiantly extend their five fingers in
the face of the massevely armed foreign soldiers who came to "liberate" them?
What are "the people" saying for themselves? Any expert on "the people"
psychology on board?


Jafrikayiti

«Depi nan Ginen bon nèg ap ede nèg!»
http://www.jafrikayiti.com
----Original Message Follows----
From: Bob Corbett <corbetre@webster.edu>
To: Haiti mailing list <haiti@lists.webster.edu>
Subject: 22972:  Dorce: Re: 22985:  Allouard:  Re: 22946:  Esser: Cruising Into
History (fwd)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:29:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: LAKAT47@aol.com
In a message dated 8/16/04 4:59:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Allouard
<allouard@libertysurf.fr> writes:
<< I can't help seeing this logic as puritan, (their hands are clean, but they
  have no hands) and it does not take into account the benefit of ordinary
  Haitian citizens, nor their general concern or immediate interests.
  Besides, it seems partly tainted of self-righteousness and condescending
  attitude...
  At least, it shows that this institution is more concerned about its image
  than about benefit and interests of people having booked their trip... (is
  it sure than going to the beach, even beautiful Labadi, is what someone
  interested in Haiti, Haitian roots, Haitian history, and Haitian people? One
  week in a all-inclusive ressort could be then better than visiting museums,
  churches, ruins, and speaking to ordinary citizens outside the fence...) And
  one would perhaps believe organizers are more concerned about their image
  than about Haitian people actual benefit... >>
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
It is ironic and unpleasant when someone who supports the coup and the
rebel/criminal element, uses as justification for urging the rest of us to
support
Haiti now "for the good of the people."  Please, if the good of the people was
of any import at all, Aristide would still be there, and the  opposition
(whatever the nom du jour is at present) would have been working things out
with
the Lavalas government.  The good of the people is not what the supporters of
the coup care about.  Only their own good.  The people will take what's left,
if
there is ANYTHING.
I am so disgusted that I can barely stand to respond to the posts on this
list.  And let me add my name to the group of "blans" who will not spend one
dime
in Haiti until democracy is restored.  My piddly little money will not do a
damn thing to help "the people" and I won't be able to help them for real from
the comfort of my cruise ship.  As for the middle class/on up who do stand to
make money on whatever tourism they can dig up, I am not interested in helping
them.  Bitter?  You bet I am.  And judgemental?  Oh honey, you have NO idea.
Not that those who are the target of my wrath will be in the least bit
troubled by it.  Still, I will not legitimize their nefarious support of this
terrible crime on the people of Haiti .  You want to help the people?  Then
stop
dealing with the devil.
Kathy Dorce~