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30302: (Roebling) reply) Re: 30290: Pierre (Comment) Re: 30287: Roebling (fwd)




From: Elizabeth Roebling <lizieames@yahoo.com>

I imagine that it is a comfort to have such fixed ideas about the solutions for this island. How is going with the worker's revolution in the US? Ah, yes, I thought not.

Many people in the US assume that all nations have - or should have-the same policy as the US- that anyone born on the soil of a nation are entitled to citizenship. This is not so, See http://canada.metropolis.net/events/metropolis_presents/EspeakersU_/weil2_e.htm for some background on the laws of different nations. It is not, in fact, international "law" that a nation must guarantee citizenship to every child born on its soil.Haiti does not grant citizenship to any child born on its soil but rather to the children of any Haitian born to a Haitian born parent anywhere in the world.http://www.haiti.org/constitu/constabl.htm The issue that we are facing here is that many of the children of Haitians who were born here are not, in fact, eligible for Haitian citizenship as their parents were also born here. They are,in fact, stateless persons.

The Dominican constitution provides that children of workers "in transit" are not eligible for citizenship. http://pdba.georgetown.edu/Constitutions/DomRep/domrep02.html And the Haitians are considered "in transit". If their parents have gone through the proper procedures to obtain Domincan citizenship, they are children of Domincans.

Imagine if the economy of Haiti were miraculously to boom, with plenty of work and personal security. There would be a flood across the border going in the other direction. Yet many Haitians who are here do have legal residency, a process that may lead to citizenship in time. It is a matter of filing the proper papers, following the proper steps, just as it is for immigrants to the United States. This is, of course, an almost impossible project for those who are illiterate.

The Dominican Republic is trying to maintain its national identity and its borders. It is true that the availability of Haitian workers probably brings down the wages of all Dominicans, who themselves are very poorly paid. So perhaps it would be better for the Domincans if all the Haitians were to be deported. Would that further the cause? Perhaps those millions of illegal immigrants are holding down the wages of all the legal US citizens?

It is a measure of how successful Ms. Pierre has been that she is attracting such a visceral response. Many people of good will are working to make life here in the DR a bit better for the 600,000+ Haitians who are here. I am not certain that you are helping the situation, well meaning though you may be. Dialogue is not assisted by demonizing.

The DR is perhaps reacting quite understandably to the force of the international pressure which seems intent on pressuring this nation without offering much in the way of assistance The United States would not, for instance, open its doors to all the Haitians living here.. Notice please, how quickly the Haitians who arrive in Florida are sent to deportation proceedings.Unlike the Haitians who are well educated and have sufficient means to obtain visas to emigrate to the US, France, Canada, the Bahamas, etc., most of the Haitians who are here are neither highly skilled or litterate. They are, however, extremely willing to work for whatever small amounts they can make. Most live here in peace,and prefer to stay rather than return to Haiti,

It would be useful if we could work together to come up with some positive steps to help reconcile these two nations, obtain some rights for the education of Haitian children who live here and a means for them to legally obtain citizenship. We need the help of the Haitian and Dominican respective disasporas living in the United States,

  I invite anyone who is working for reconciliation to contact me.

For those of you who are on the picket lines, why not find a Domincan to hug? Brotherhood is after all one of the great ideals of the revolution, n'est ce pas?

  Elizabeth